noticed this as wellxxhellfirexx wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 02:54 they will call it "L@@K! Rare vintage Zenith black badge clicky mechanical keyboard" as that is the keywords most listings have.
𝙍𝘼𝙍𝙀 𝘾𝙇𝙄𝘾𝙆𝙔 𝙑𝙄𝙉𝙏𝘼𝙂𝙀 𝙈𝙀𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙉𝙄𝘾𝘼𝙇 𝙍𝙀𝙏𝙍𝙊 90𝙨 𝙆𝙀𝙔𝘽𝙊𝘼𝙍𝘿apb wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 03:20noticed this as wellxxhellfirexx wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 02:54 they will call it "L@@K! Rare vintage Zenith black badge clicky mechanical keyboard" as that is the keywords most listings have.
clicky seems to be a favorite
That's not a good deal. You can get a model F AT for around $170 - $190 USD. Without the spacebar it would be around $140.Rayndalf wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 04:16 Recently (couple hours ago) bought an F AT for $240 shipped and I considered that a deal. It's even missing the spacebar.
That second one was the one I bought. Shipping was $80, so it was $240 with taxes and fees.xxhellfirexx wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 19:54That's not a good deal. You can get a model F AT for around $170 - $190 USD. Without the spacebar it would be around $140.Rayndalf wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 04:16 Recently (couple hours ago) bought an F AT for $240 shipped and I considered that a deal. It's even missing the spacebar.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-C ... 3836683007
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Mo ... 4578194578
The flip side of the flip side is that you can sometimes find those ads with blurry pictures and YOU know what the KB is and how much it's worth and then the auction hits $14,505 two seconds before close because someone else also knew what the KB is and how much it was worth, but has deeper pockets. Not that I'm bitter that I didn't win that unlabeled Focus FK-555 on ebay a couple days ago or anything.Palatino wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 18:28 On the flip side of sellers not knowing what they have, occasionally you can pick up something good for very little because they've basically advertised it as "Keyboard" with a single blurry photo, but enough for you to work out or have a good guess at what it is.
Yeah. I'm in a similar place... I know just enough to know what can be done with a little ingenuity, but I rarely acknowledge that fact that I already have a backlog of projects.hellothere wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 00:40The flip side of the flip side is that you can sometimes find those ads with blurry pictures and YOU know what the KB is and how much it's worth and then the auction hits $14,505 two seconds before close because someone else also knew what the KB is and how much it was worth, but has deeper pockets. Not that I'm bitter that I didn't win that unlabeled Focus FK-555 on ebay a couple days ago or anything.Palatino wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 18:28 On the flip side of sellers not knowing what they have, occasionally you can pick up something good for very little because they've basically advertised it as "Keyboard" with a single blurry photo, but enough for you to work out or have a good guess at what it is.
I think that there are a couple different buyers out there:
* I want a good, vintage mechanical keyboard.
* I want a vintage mechanical keyboard to add to my collection.
* I want a vintage keyboard that's cheap so I can flip it in a week.
I'm a combination: I want a good vintage keyboard that I can play with and/or repair and then be able to sell it for what I paid for it or slightly more. I've also got a bunch of switches I haven't tried and want to.
I also got auction sniped the other day on a new old stock Packard Bell 5131c that was only £4The flip side of the flip side is that you can sometimes find those ads with blurry pictures and YOU know what the KB is and how much it's worth and then the auction hits $14,505 two seconds before close because someone else also knew what the KB is and how much it was worth, but has deeper pockets. Not that I'm bitter that I didn't win that unlabeled Focus FK-555 on ebay a couple days ago or anything.
I think that there are a couple different buyers out there:
* I want a good, vintage mechanical keyboard.
* I want a vintage mechanical keyboard to add to my collection.
* I want a vintage keyboard that's cheap so I can flip it in a week.
I'm a combination: I want a good vintage keyboard that I can play with and/or repair and then be able to sell it for what I paid for it or slightly more. I've also got a bunch of switches I haven't tried and want to.
Yes, I agree with you ... maybe. Partially?Rayndalf wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 01:36To anyone who needs a reminder:
Don't make my mistake. There will always be another "project board" that you're convinced you'll never have a chance to buy again. But it's not worth having over a dozen project boards in various stages of disassembly. It doesn't matter how much cheaper it is to do the work yourself if you don't do the work. I won't take my own advice, but hopefully you will.
What layout is it?I happen to have a black two-tone BTC 5100c compact KB that I need to sell...
Aren't 5130's foam and foil? Or do you just mean the models with 5130-something?micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 02:46 I don't like how many of you are into the whole Packard Bell 5130 thing. That's MY super-niche batch of boards to exploit, you bastards!
Nope. The Packard Bell/BTC 5130 (and a few other 51xx series) is BTC Dome with Slider. I think there were some F&F at one point but not the 5130.Thorogrimm wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 04:26Aren't 5130's foam and foil? Or do you just mean the models with 5130-something?micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 02:46 I don't like how many of you are into the whole Packard Bell 5130 thing. That's MY super-niche batch of boards to exploit, you bastards!
And I still have yet to try one, I've heard about their amazing tacility and I've been wanting to add one to my collection since.
micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 18:45Nope. The Packard Bell/BTC 5130 (and a few other 51xx series) is BTC Dome with Slider. I think there were some F&F at one point but not the 5130.Thorogrimm wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 04:26Aren't 5130's foam and foil? Or do you just mean the models with 5130-something?micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 02:46 I don't like how many of you are into the whole Packard Bell 5130 thing. That's MY super-niche batch of boards to exploit, you bastards!
And I still have yet to try one, I've heard about their amazing tacility and I've been wanting to add one to my collection since.
Luckily they're still relatively cheap. Don't get a 5100c thinking it will give the same feel though. That's a much more linear dome, fairly mushy.
That is well cute. I'd love to get my hands on one in futureYMMV. Mine's in almost new shape and it feels like a pretty decent tactile. If I was forced to use a "rubber dome" of some type, I'd pick this. One warning on the 5100c is that they had models with 6 pin DIN connectors. Don't get those.Spoiler:
My plan was to add a Soarer's Converter to my 5100c so I could make this thing even lighter. The problem is that the case doesn't have that much extra space. It's on the "to-do" list, tho
micmil mentions that these are cheap. The ones I've seen hover around $40 US on ebay. Also, while I'm not 100% sure they have the same switches, there's a person with massive quantities of new white 5100c keyboards selling for $45 each.
I got my 5100c based on hearing from Chyros that these had some of the best tactile switches, period. When I saw the little compact black one at a decent price, I kinda had to get it. The grey/black color combo is also very uncommon and I think it's really nice looking.
Ah, I saw someone selling a 5130 for £28 but I wasn't sure if it was foam and foil. I gave that a miss in the end thoughmicmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 18:45Nope. The Packard Bell/BTC 5130 (and a few other 51xx series) is BTC Dome with Slider. I think there were some F&F at one point but not the 5130.Thorogrimm wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 04:26Aren't 5130's foam and foil? Or do you just mean the models with 5130-something?micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 02:46 I don't like how many of you are into the whole Packard Bell 5130 thing. That's MY super-niche batch of boards to exploit, you bastards!
And I still have yet to try one, I've heard about their amazing tacility and I've been wanting to add one to my collection since.
Luckily they're still relatively cheap. Don't get a 5100c thinking it will give the same feel though. That's a much more linear dome, fairly mushy.
Damn. I missed out.micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 21:10 The tactile feel on the 5130 is way stronger than on the 5100c.
And just to be clear, the 5100c isn't crap as far as rubber domes go. There's way worse. The 5130 is just better though. To the point that if you check the workshop forum I have a 5130 I bought for spares and transplanted the domes into a 5100c. It's definitely a better feel, although I need to pop it back open and transplant the actual spacebar dome into it.
To be quite honest as much as I love these things the most expensive one I have was $40 and it was absolutely pristine except for a missing keycap. I wouldn't pay much more than that. At that point you're getting into low-cost mechanical territory and while I'd definitely take the 5130 over my Ajazz I'm not sure I'd give up my $60 Redragon for it. I like them but there's no reason for them to command a higher price than that.
Ya know... MAYBE I know? Looking into it the Silitek dome with slider was used on a few Atari keyboards. I had an XEGS when I was super young and remember the keyboard sucked, but then again I was like six years old so take that for what it's worth.Thorogrimm wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 22:50 Damn. I missed out.
What I did manage to get though was a Silitek dome with slider keyboard. Are they any good?
I picked one up last month in really good condition for $29 shipped. There's still some good deals to be had on ebay, but I also saw a NOS one for like $150 a few weeks ago. I hope no one bought that.micmil wrote: 30 Mar 2021, 21:10 The tactile feel on the 5130 is way stronger than on the 5100c.
And just to be clear, the 5100c isn't crap as far as rubber domes go. There's way worse. The 5130 is just better though. To the point that if you check the workshop forum I have a 5130 I bought for spares and transplanted the domes into a 5100c. It's definitely a better feel, although I need to pop it back open and transplant the actual spacebar dome into it.
To be quite honest as much as I love these things the most expensive one I have was $40 and it was absolutely pristine except for a missing keycap. I wouldn't pay much more than that. At that point you're getting into low-cost mechanical territory and while I'd definitely take the 5130 over my Ajazz I'm not sure I'd give up my $60 Redragon for it. I like them but there's no reason for them to command a higher price than that.
I'll put up a review or something when I receive mine because I've seen very little information about itYa know... MAYBE I know? Looking into it the Silitek dome with slider was used on a few Atari keyboards. I had an XEGS when I was super young and remember the keyboard sucked, but then again I was like six years old so take that for what it's worth.