Steam punk lookcollector of junk wrote:I only mentioned copper or brass because I thought it wound look different (cool) for a bare bones keyboard and a change from alu / steel (although we could paint steel or chrome it !)
Chroming is a bit fragile (glass surfaced Ssteel must be most convenient) and anodized alu can be made in a lot of colour 
I think HONEY/F1TOF12/R3 is absolutely fine.7bit wrote: I did only half-ways follow this, but the HONEY/F1TOF12/H7 kit is for the Hyper7 keyboard.
For Model-F-style layout:
F1, F2 exist in row 1 already.
F3, F4 do not yet exist in row 2.
F5, F6 do exist.
F7, F8 do not yet exist in row 4.
F9, F10 don't know if they should be row 3 (like bottom row) or row 4 again.
One option would be to add F3, F4 in row 2 and take the keys below F5,F6 from row 3.
It is to me too but 7bit doesn't like full row3 keysBimboBB wrote: I think HONEY/F1TOF12/R3 is absolutely fine.
We didn't have the HONEY/ALPHA/R3 at all 
I think thats what most people preferred....different rows.Vierax wrote:It is to me too but 7bit doesn't like full row3 keysBimboBB wrote: I think HONEY/F1TOF12/R3 is absolutely fine.
Yes it was the introduction of the ALPHA/RED and 7bit told he can't afford both standard profile and row7 sets and the majority choose the standard. Now it's too late to complain since the deadline is too close to add another set but when i see the white mods I think it should be possibleBimboBB wrote:I think thats what most people preferred....different rows.Vierax wrote:It is to me too but 7bit doesn't like full row3 keysBimboBB wrote: I think HONEY/F1TOF12/R3 is absolutely fine.
Muirium wrote:Get in the Teensy group buy. They're not that expensive! I'm leaning more towards putting a hub and straightforward USB interconnect system in my next build than ever.
What do you mean? White mods are at zero.Vierax wrote: Yes it was the introduction of the ALPHA/RED and 7bit told he can't afford both standard profile and row7 sets and the majority choose the standard. Now it's too late to complain since the deadline is too close to add another set but when i see the white mods I think it should be possible
Ah, I read through the whole thread but for some reason decided to skip page 9 and make a mock up. I would definitely be interested in your more sensible proposed layout.matt3o wrote:we settled for a 0.25 gap on the arrow cluster. The brownfox (my previous custom) has the arrows with no gap and I wish I put it.
Also, DSA PBT set won't have the 7u spacebar unfortunately, so I'd try to avoid that unless really necessary.
I mean we could have plenty of time if it was available since the beginning, to let it a chance.BimboBB wrote: What do you mean? White mods are at zero.
7x spacebar and 1.5x modsiAmAhab wrote:I very much like the iso kmac layout, but I feel it should be slightly different like so:
Gets rid of the unnecessary gap between the ctrl and arrow cluster.
I have added it because of Simon, it's fine for me too.BimboBB wrote:I think HONEY/F1TOF12/R3 is absolutely fine.7bit wrote: I did only half-ways follow this, but the HONEY/F1TOF12/H7 kit is for the Hyper7 keyboard.
For Model-F-style layout:
F1, F2 exist in row 1 already.
F3, F4 do not yet exist in row 2.
F5, F6 do exist.
F7, F8 do not yet exist in row 4.
F9, F10 don't know if they should be row 3 (like bottom row) or row 4 again.
One option would be to add F3, F4 in row 2 and take the keys below F5,F6 from row 3.
Not quite the same, but if you're aiming for some semi-automatic cut-out plate creation, I found OpenSCAD incredibly useful: Once the initial framework is in place, custom plates can be popped out arbitrarily by just changing a few parameters. And even switching to a completely different geometry of the cutouts (to still be able to open the switches) is just a few lines of code.Laser wrote:Someday someone should make a lego-style keyboard, where everyone can make his dream layout by moving and relocking different pcb-plate-keys parts at different positions relative to one another.
If this is really an option, I will buy 1) and 2).matt3o wrote:since we will never find a consensus let's just say the we will have 3 main cases.
1) 65%, arrow cluster no function keys
2) Left function cluster
3) Top function row
You'll then be free to place the bottom mods in any way you want (ISO and ANSI). I don't know if I will be able to design the PCB to support all layouts, though.
thats not true....i love them all.pasph wrote:i would love "the full MU" but i don't think there's love for big kbs
"the full MU" remembers me a bit of this WYSE terminal board, which layout i always found to be quite nice (okay....the spacebar/mod sizes are maybe a bit over the top )
