PLU ML87 any good?

[zakazak]

Hi, i wonder if the PLU ML87 are any good? Thought about buying the tenkeyless mx brown one which is quite cheap.

Couldnt find a review :/

Thanks

[appie747]

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?1252 ... OM-keycaps

[zakazak]

thanks.. if i got it right it doesnt support 6 keys at the same time? However , it supports enough keys at the same time to be fine for gaming?

[intealls]

Just got mine, and I'm very pleased with it. It feels really sturdy, and the caps aren't as thin as I expected them to be. I got the white one, will write a review in a while.

[redpill]

thanks.. if i got it right it doesnt support 6 keys at the same time? However , it supports enough keys at the same time to be fine for gaming?

I believe they are 2KRO, which means some 3 key combinations will fail. If the game you are playing requires those three keys to be pressed at once, you are SOL. I had that problem with of my favorite games with my old rubber dome, it was in fact what wound up driving me back to mechanicals for the first time in a couple decades.

[dux]

In fact I did reach 7KRO just for fun but very specific, including all the modifiers, Shift and ASDF I think. In fact overall it is a 2KRO but a with some gaming specific more more-than-2KRO. I'm not a gamer, so I don't know which combinations I should test.

[dux]

I too am pleased with the overall quality. The POM keycaps are lasered (i have a black one). The keys even look like coated in some way. I think that because they come shiny and you can see the border of that shininess on some keys, so I believe those are small imperfection of the sprayed coating. But I see those imperfections only on special angles. Overall the shininess/coating makes very nice, smooth almost oily look and feel. To bad I needed the German layout and changed them for some Cherries.

In difference to the Ducky it is I think better build, in spite of the price, because the whole top plastic covering is out of one piece of plastic, like Filco or Leopold. Plate mounted, almost 1 kg weight. The mediakeys are useful and discrete.

My only real problem is that stupid lasered Spacebar: thick bigass letters "POM KEYCAP-PLU.CN" on the front side. The keycaps sit extremely stiff so be very careful changing them.

[ripster]

I doubt the keys are coated. The spacebar isn't compatible with Filco, Cherry, Leopold or anybody else AFAIK. That's a bummer especially if you wanted to swap in KBC PBT keys.

And try testing WDE or WAQ for the NKRO test.

[dux]

And try testing WDE or WAQ for the NKRO test.

WDE or WAQ does not work. But WASDF, Left, Down, Right and Ctrl on the same time does.

[dux]

I doubt the keys are coated.

You can see the difference of the shininess in the on the top 2 milimeters of the EnterKey, of the ShiftKey and the |\ Key. I think it is a defect of the sprayed coating.

Plu coating??

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Interestingly those three keys dos not match the color of the others. Interestingly my Cherries match the Spacebar, the Alt / Ctrl row of the Plu. But the difference in the real life is almost not noticable, my webcam is exaggerating.

[dux]

The spacebar isn't compatible with Filco, Cherry, Leopold or anybody else AFAIK. That's a bummer especially if you wanted to swap in KBC PBT keys.

Not sure about that:

POM plu Spacebar

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There is a group buy on GH right now with plu keyset http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?1981 ... h-freebies, so you can ask them if the spacebar fits.

[dux]

The PCB seems to be an exact copy of the Filco layout.

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Replacement PCB and steel plate (including ISO, Cherry keys and fully programmable) will (hopefully) be made available by some guys on http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?2018 ... rest-check