NovaTouch TKL European Tour - Vote for Winner

[sphinx]

It's quite obvious that wlhm should be the winner. His review was far more detailed then any other. In fact afaik everyone else only gave some general impressions.

correction: Madhias, HAL and andrewjoy also did decent reviews of the board but i still think that wlhm's review was the best.

[matt3o]

probably at this point Bram should just pick it randomly

[sphinx]

probably at this point Bram should just pick it randomly

or pick a winner and give everyone else free shipping and a 50% discount voucher

[db268]

Well I voted for sphinx as well and we are from the same IP, as we work on the same company. IP grouping wouldn't be wise, I'd say.

Although I do think 0-posts or accounts created before the poll are both two good metrics to filter out some votes.

14 votes coming from the same IP all new users. c'mon! we can show proof

They are all real people i swear.. You have no idea the amount of beers i owe this people now..

I also work with Sphinx and I can confirm there are beers that will be charged for the votes from everyone here at the office. I won't be getting any because I forgot to vote, but this votes were indeed legit as far as I saw.

[kbdfr]

[…] I also work with Sphinx and I can confirm there are beers that will be charged for the votes from everyone here at the office. I won't be getting any because I forgot to vote, but this votes were indeed legit as far as I saw.

You don't seriously want to argue that vote buying is a legit method, do you?

[razuke]

It's quite obvious that wlhm should be the winner. His review was far more detailed then any other. In fact afaik everyone else only gave some general impressions.

correction: Madhias, HAL and andrewjoy also did decent reviews of the board but i still think that wlhm's review was the best.

Yeah, for us it doens't matter who wins, all we want is our promised beers.

[sphinx]

[…] I also work with Sphinx and I can confirm there are beers that will be charged for the votes from everyone here at the office. I won't be getting any because I forgot to vote, but this votes were indeed legit as far as I saw.

You don't seriously want to argue that vote buying is a legit method, do you?

Well no one actually paid anything

[Spikebolt]

Well I voted for sphinx as well and we are from the same IP, as we work on the same company. IP grouping wouldn't be wise, I'd say.

Although I do think 0-posts or accounts created before the poll are both two good metrics to filter out some votes.

14 votes coming from the same IP all new users. c'mon! we can show proof

They are all real people i swear.. You have no idea the amount of beers i owe this people now..

It's actually funny cause I offered beer (edit2: as a joke) to my friends as well

EDIT: I think the 0 post rule would be fine, perfectly fair and valid and all that but it's kind of a bummer that such a rule would be introduced after the poll was over. Same IP requests is also pretty valid but I understand sphinx's argument perfectly, I even had my mom register on my computer!

[scottc]

Wow, I have to say this is bullshit. All new users from the same IP? I would suggest that the people involved would be disqualified...

I also work with Sphinx and I can confirm there are beers that will be charged for the votes from everyone here at the office. I won't be getting any because I forgot to vote, but this votes were indeed legit as far as I saw.

Thanks matt3o for taking a look at this. I think that wlhlm is indeed the rightful winner here.

[kbdfr]

[…] I also work with Sphinx and I can confirm there are beers that will be charged for the votes from everyone here at the office. I won't be getting any because I forgot to vote, but this votes were indeed legit as far as I saw.

You don't seriously want to argue that vote buying is a legit method, do you?

Well no one actually paid anything

So in your opinion when I offer a cop some money if he doesn't pay attention while I am robbing a bank,
and he agrees and acts as agreed, there's nothing reprehensible as long as the money hasn't been paid… yet?

Or do you mean a beer is just a minor bribe not worth talking about?

Or are you just trying to get me angry?

[sphinx]

[...]

So in your opinion when I offer a cop some money if he doesn't pay attention while I am robbing a bank,
and he agrees and acts as agreed, there's nothing reprehensible as long as the money hasn't been paid… yet?

Or do you mean a beer is just a minor bribe not worth talking about?

Or are you just trying to get me angry?

I'm pretty sure it's the last one

[Spikebolt]

Wow, I have to say this is bullshit. All new users from the same IP? I would suggest that the people involved would be disqualified...

I will accept whatever decision regardless of the outcome, but I'd dislike to be (or have anyone be) disqualified for having a couple of coworkers vote in a public poll...

[sphinx]

[kbdfr]

Wow, I have to say this is bullshit. All new users from the same IP? I would suggest that the people involved would be disqualified...

I will accept whatever decision regardless of the outcome, but I'd dislike to be disqualified for having a couple of coworkers vote in a public poll...

They are coworkers only seen from your perspective.
Seen from DT's perspective, they are bribed voters.

[Spikebolt]

Wow, I have to say this is bullshit. All new users from the same IP? I would suggest that the people involved would be disqualified...

I will accept whatever decision regardless of the outcome, but I'd dislike to be disqualified for having a couple of coworkers vote in a public poll...

They are coworkers only seen from your perspective.
Seen from DT's perspective, they are bribed voters.

The criteria which people use to cast their votes is their own choice. Either they liked my review or like my blue eyes but there was no rule preventing anyone from voting on whoever they pleased. No one should be disqualified for having votes from friends/coworkers. That's just silly.

[guk]

"Winner of the best review/impression of the NovaTouch TKL Tour" was supposed to win a NT, for beers and blue eyes there might be other places and/or occasions.

[kbdfr]

[…] The criteria which people use to cast their votes is their own choice. Either they liked my review or like my blue eyes but there was no rule preventing anyone from voting on whoever they pleased. No one should be disqualified for having votes from friends/coworkers. That's just silly.

That's Mafia argumentation.
Pay someone a beer or $10 or $100 or $1,000 or $10,000,
and then say: "The criteria which people use to cast their votes is their own choice."

[Spikebolt]

The only flaw in your thought is that no one actually got paid anything: it was a joke

[sphinx]

The only flaw in your thought is that no one actually got paid anything: it was a joke

I allready have people asking for beers

[Spikebolt]

The only flaw in your thought is that no one actually got paid anything: it was a joke

I allready have people asking for beers

At least they aren't asking you this

[petersaints]

I voted on Spikebolt because he is the most awesome guy in the world. I don't even like beer!!

[SL89]

This seems pretty fucked up. How many 'coworkers' registered just to vote on this poll.

[kbdfr]

The only flaw in your thought is that no one actually got paid anything: it was a joke

A joke?
We don't even know for sure all people who voted for you are real persons.
All we know is a lot of votes came from the same IP.

[sphinx]

The only flaw in your thought is that no one actually got paid anything: it was a joke

A joke?
We don't even know for sure all people who voted for you are real persons.
All we know is a lot of votes came from the same IP.

I can get a group picture actually

[andrewjoy]

I would generally say that asking people to vote who are not part of the community is against the spirit of the poll, but this is something that CM Bram will have to decide.

[SL89]

I would generally say that asking people to vote who are not part of the community is against the spirit of the poll, but this is something that CM Bram will have to decide.

I think it goes against the spirit of any sort of poll or contest, not just here.

[kbdfr]

[…] We don't even know for sure all people who voted for you are real persons.
All we know is a lot of votes came from the same IP.

I can get a group picture actually

Yes please.
Showing all the villains who voted for you just as a favour in order to help you win something,
irrespective of your merit in relation with the terms of the poll:

[…] So, who in your opinion made the best impression or review? Who was the most creative, or had the best insight? Who deserves to win a NovaTouch TKL? Voting per the Poll right here!! […]

[sphinx]

[…] We don't even know for sure all people who voted for you are real persons.
All we know is a lot of votes came from the same IP.

I can get a group picture actually

Yes please.
Showing all the villains who voted for you just as a favour in order to help you win something,
irrespective of your merit in relation with the terms of the poll:

[…] So, who in your opinion made the best impression or review? Who was the most creative, or had the best insight? Who deserves to win a NovaTouch TKL? Voting per the Poll right here!! […]

It's quite obvious that wlhm should be the winner. His review was far more detailed then any other. In fact afaik everyone else only gave some general impressions.

correction: Madhias, HAL and andrewjoy also did decent reviews of the board but i still think that wlhm's review was the best.

[SL89]

So why'd you game the system if you knew who should have won?

[sphinx]

So why'd you game the system if you knew who should have won?

for the luls

besides, no one said anywhere that the results of the poll would determine the winner.

CM Bram asked the general opinion but said before that he and the Deskthority admins would decide who won.