IBM part numbers

[Myoth]

While I was watching what happened to the wiki recently I saw what Daniel and tactica had made to the [wiki]IBM_part_numbers[/wiki] and I think that since this is such a huge topic it needed it's own thread.

I have a few questions first :

-how did you find the 1386853 and such obscure layouts ? did you just assume their part number by looking at the part number scheme of other keyboards ?

-do you guys plan to add the Japanese section of IBM ? the JX, Multistation and such. I can help you with that if you want ?

[Myoth]

added the 6111082, 2683215 and 1386965.

[Myoth]

1. It would be nice to know who does this belong to, as I don't think we have a SSK with the french layout in the pn list other than the Indies.
   
   
   https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_mayhem/7406647092/
   
   
2. There is also this thing here with a lot of mistery around it :
   
   
   
   wiki/IBM_Model_F#IBM_4980_Keyboard
   
   I wonder badly what's its part number. You guys might know ?

[tactica]

-how did you find the 1386853 and such obscure layouts ? did you just assume their part number by looking at the part number scheme of other keyboards ?

No assumption, that one and many others were found by checking official documentation from IBM. Take a look at the references. Documentation with lists of P/Ns are precious, a (complete) list of 4704 keyboards for example would be virtually impossible without that.

If you are going to contribute to this page, please use references in your entries whenever possible. That alone won't make the information correct, but it allows the reader to know that it isn't made up at least.

Also, a proper change log in your edits wouldn't hurt. This is best practices for every wiki editor anyway.

-do you guys plan to add the Japanese section of IBM ? the JX, Multistation and such. I can help you with that if you want ?

Please be my guest

It would be nice to know who does this belong to, as I don't think we have a SSK with the french layout in the pn list other than the Indies.

Lexmark branded keyboards do not belong into a list of IBM P/Ns however. That should go somewhere else.

[Myoth]

No assumption, that one and many others were found by checking official documentation from IBM. Take a look at the references. Documentation with lists of P/Ns are precious, a (complete) list of 4704 keyboards for example would be virtually impossible without that.

yeah I figured after I posted, I search more in the references and eventually found some lists of pns you used.

If you are going to contribute to this page, please use references in your entries whenever possible. That alone won't make the information correct, but it allows the reader to know that it isn't made up at least.
Also, a proper change log in your edits wouldn't hurt. This is best practices for every wiki editor anyway.

Yes, I shall do so.

Please be my guest

Cool, I'll start sometime soon then.

Lexmark branded keyboards do not belong into a list of IBM P/Ns however. That should go somewhere else.

oh okay, so we're not counting Dell branded Ms, nor Ambras etc too ?

[tactica]

oh okay, so we're not counting Dell branded Ms, nor Ambras etc too ?

Right. All those should go in a separate article, the one about IBM P/Ns alone is becoming quite large without clones.

[j0d1]

I hope to contribute to that list one day but for now, I just want to say that this wiki page is VERY helpful so thank you a lot for making it. It's one of the few wiki pages that I have bookmarked and I consult it whenever I encounter an IBM keyboard in the wild. Cheers!

[Daniel Beardsmore]

It's at the point where a GUI table editor might be more practical :P

[Myoth]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-New-IBM ... 1438.l2649

this confirms the 1392366 is Buckling Spring doesn't it ?

[tactica]

It's at the point where a GUI table editor might be more practical

FYI, there is a Visual Editor for MediaWiki. How well it manages tables, I have no idea - I quit the editor immediately whenever Wikipedia launches it for me.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-New-IBM ... 1438.l2649

this confirms the 1392366 is Buckling Spring doesn't it ?

Not any more than wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard#1392366 does, but whoever wrote that part sounds like he knew what he was talking about so I suppose it is OK to assume it's a BS keyboard

[Ellipse]

Someone was chatting with me about IBM part numbers - I thought I'd post the numbers I've found over the years not yet on the DT IBM part numbers wiki page (from what I could see), if someone wanted to update the wiki page.

These are a mix of FRU, Part numbers, and other numbers from IBM and Lexmark. Listed below and attached in Excel format.

Part/FRU/Other Description
1389732 possible space unsaver part number
1615008 IBM 3194 104 key keyboard-possibly sim to 1387033
1742766 possible beam spring
4423001 IBM 3278 keyboard - good - listed as 3287 85 KEY KEYBOARD
5641272 ibm 3101 beam spring possibly
6018100 10 key keypad for 3290
6018109 10 key keypad for 3290
6110348 Model F terminal 122
7361056 66 key 5251 keyboard possibly
7362146 66 key 5251 beam spring keyboard possibly
47044607 alt for F107
47044662 alt part number for Kishsaver 62 key
47044677 alt for F77
41G3564 SSK; industrial
41G3584 SSK; industrial
4704-4607 alt for F107
4704-4662 alt part number for Kishsaver 62 key
4704-4677 alt for F77
1390360 SSK no bezel
1390654 industrial
1391518 SSK-possibly for terminals
1391974 SSK
1391987 SSK
1392575 SSK
1392981 SSK
1392982 SSK insert
1393279 SSK Box Keyboard Carton number
1393490 Keyboard Carton for early 1391401
1393690 SSK-possibly model 30 starter kit
1393990 Keyboard Carton for early 1391401
1394047 SSK
1394981 industrial Spanish
1395241 industrial
1395341 industrial
1396055 industrial
1397690 SSK
1397691 SSK
1428401 Ergonomic
6090817 PC AT Model F
13H6713 Ergonomic
15F8242 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
41G3611 SSK-possible
60G0869 SSK 1370475
61X8767 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
72X7023 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
90X8018 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
90X9252 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
90X9473 IBM Accessory kit box - for 1391401
1393290 SSK FRU - regular 1393290 may not be clicky
1386085 like 1390131
1390119 full size Model M no LEDs
1391990 Regular 101 Key
1396791 Attached Cable; Two Piece Keys; Made in UK
1397449 Flat Cable
1397730 No Logo; Two Piece; Removable Cable
1398609 No logo; like 1391401
59G7981 Removable Cable; Two Piece Keys
60G3571 Attached Cable; Two Piece Keys
71G5791 Attached Cable; Two Piece Keys; Same as 82G2383
801449 PC XT keyboard-confirmed
1389106
1351710 blank caps set
1370580 trackpoint M4-1, M5-1 or M5-2 cable split keyboard mouse ps/2
6480185 1390120 box

[sharktastica]

Here are some IBM 3205 Color Display Console F122 and M122 Type I (aka, two-size risers + straight DIN plug) keyboard part numbers, some of which I don't believe are on the wiki yet. The two Japanese Katakana ones are interesting, which are 124-key as per IBM's GA18-2339-1 document.

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Source: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/3205/SY18- ... ep1985.pdf

[karlmartin95]

IBM 5281 Keyboard (Beamfoot) Spanish Layout

P/N 5642540
MFI 7361670

7640025KE (last weird number on the back of the keyboard)

[shine]

IBM 8775 spanish - data entry (3276 alike) beamspring keyboard

P/N 8543019

[shine]

IBM 3101 spanish keyboard

ID: 330X-55
P/N 5640441

[inozenz]

I have this thing here.







The Terra branding is really unique and beautiful, tbh i have searched the forum but wasn't able to find anything about it.
Sadly the partnumber is cut off at the end, but i think its something like 139576X.
Maybe someone knows the exact partnumber?
Is there a guide for stuff like that?

1395764 seems to be a model m122, but has blue label, while this one has a grey label. I have a few Model M with grey label and different dates and according to the weight of it my guess is around 1989 maybe even 1988.
It is slightly heavier then the rest, but that is due to the attached cable.

[feltel]

Wortmann with its brand name Terra is a german computer manufacturer, still operating today. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wortmann_AG

They are mainly producing budget oriented equipment and PCs. Sure the keyboard came with the logo attached? Maybe someone glued it on back in the day.

[inozenz]

Wortmann with its brand name Terra is a german computer manufacturer, still operating today. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wortmann_AG

They are mainly producing budget oriented equipment and PCs. Sure the keyboard came with the logo attached? Maybe someone glued it on back in the day.

I bought it this way, but it really was glued on.
At first i thought it was welded because it was so tough to even lift it up.
Then I used a really thin and sharp knife and risked damaging it, but it came off.
I put the Terra branding back on the keyboard but moved it to the upper right corner.

The beige color matches perfectly maybe it was meant to be on the board maybe it wasn't, i really don't know.
But the board is still not common here in Germany, since i couldnt find any board with the same part number.
But i sure would want to know more about it, thanks for the wiki.