[TRADED] [US-TX] [H] IBM Model F 104-key Unsaver [W] Kishsaver, something else?

XMIT · 21 Mar 2021, 03:02

Hello friends! As it turns out, I had a spare Unsaver.

I offered to trade this one. Tested working with an Orihalcon converter.

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As a timestamp, I offered this photo of the beloved XMIT 236, purchased from elecplus several years ago. The other one was still dirty and not ready for its close up!

Spoiler:

I may just hang on to it. But, in case someone has something special to trade, I would consider it.

Such interesting things might include:

IBM Model F 4704 62-key "Kishsaver" (original, not reproduction)
Space Cadet or Symbolics keyboard
...Nissho KB106DE?

Not really looking for a Beamspring, oddly enough, but perhaps.

I'm not really sure how this will go, or if these are even fair trades? Please let me know your thoughts!

depletedvespene · 21 Mar 2021, 03:16

That Nissho the only JIS keyboard you might be interested in?

Muirium · 21 Mar 2021, 11:05

It's the only one I'd be interested in if I were trading an Unsaver! Good choice.

XMIT · 21 Mar 2021, 12:39

depletedvespene wrote: ↑
21 Mar 2021, 03:16
That Nissho the only JIS keyboard you might be interested in?

Probably, did you have something else in mind? I had been after an Alps plate spring IBM JIS board for ages and finally found one last year!

depletedvespene · 21 Mar 2021, 13:22

XMIT wrote: ↑
21 Mar 2021, 12:39

depletedvespene wrote: ↑
21 Mar 2021, 03:16
That Nissho the only JIS keyboard you might be interested in?
Probably, did you have something else in mind?

Actually...

XMIT wrote: ↑
21 Mar 2021, 12:39
I had been after an Alps plate spring IBM JIS board for ages and finally found one last year!

Dammit.

XMIT · 21 Mar 2021, 17:00

I've received an offer for a very nice 5251 or a Juki Celavi keyboard. Contemplating!

I'm aware that my odds of getting a Space Cadet or a Symbolics board are slim to none. lispnick's reproduction is probably the closest I'll ever get.

I always thought the 3278s that Halvar, monster-toys, and larryniven had were super cool.

If someone else wants a 5251 or Juki Celavi and has some other board I would be glad to coordinate an n-way trade.

I'm in no rush, interested to see how this goes...

John Doe · 21 Mar 2021, 17:21

In any situation I'm jealous that you could spare one Unsaver to trade something. xD

XMIT · 21 Mar 2021, 17:29

It is ... a situation I never thought I would find myself in. I am nothing but overwhelmed with gratitude.

raoulduke-esq · 21 Mar 2021, 21:51

Wow... I'd never seen an unsaver on the market in any capacity beyond old cached listings from search engines when they used to be sold by elecplus at reasonable prices and one that Ellipse keeps up on his site as for sale even though he sold it forever ago at a less attractive price.

I was hoping I'd cross it off my list at some point but if those are the things you're looking for in trade the rarity must be such that even if I do ever see one for sale it will be for such an exorbitant price that I have to let it pass me by.

XMIT · 21 Mar 2021, 21:54

Yeah. I have really mixed feelings about pricing. I was hoping that, by doing a trade, someone who acquired one of these boards ages ago at a reasonable price would have an opportunity.

There's always MrDuul's eBay auction, that old troll. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124595771848

(Full disclosure: I did reach out to MrDuul to see if he wants to do a trade but I doubt that would ever happen.)

raoulduke-esq · 21 Mar 2021, 23:56

I thought I (mis?)remember reading/hearing that fewer than 1000 of the blue space cadet boards were made. Now that I try to find the source again I can’t so I might be trippin. Hopefully there are more than that in the world- same goes for unsavers...

Hope you get something fun to add to your collection!

Redmaus · 22 Mar 2021, 00:35

What a gem, hope you get something good for it!

jbtb077 · 22 Mar 2021, 00:54

Holy crap. Looks beautiful. Good luck.

aftergen · 22 Mar 2021, 00:55

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=25410

How about IBM Model M15 Ergonomic keyboard (with keypad, Lexmark logo, manual, palm cushion and nearly new, no scratch, no yellow)
I sent you PM.

XMIT · 22 Mar 2021, 01:06

aftergen wrote: ↑
22 Mar 2021, 00:55
How about IBM Model M15 Ergonomic keyboard (with keypad, Lexmark logo, manual, palm cushion and nearly new, no scratch, no yellow)

I appreciate the offer but I must decline as I already have an M15. Thanks, though!

XMIT · 10 Apr 2021, 14:56

Trade progressing. Muramasa is the lucky winner. Thank you for all the thoughtful offers of various Beamspring boards. I already have a pair of 3278 boards or else I would have gladly taken the trade.

No Kishsavers were offered. I reached out to someone who may have had one and received no response. I just went and bought a second hand Ellipse F62. Maybe I'll swap original barrels, flippers, springs, and key caps into it to get it even closer to the original.

No Space Cadet or Symbolics keyboards were offered. lispnick's recreations are probably the closest I will find, I'll probably just buy one at some point.

A KB106DE was not offered. I don't think anyone had one.

Once the trade is complete I'll post what I received in return. Thanks for the interest!

John Doe · 10 Apr 2021, 15:14

Very curious about the result.

zrrion · 10 Apr 2021, 21:01

unsure how I missed this thread until today, very well as all the especially uncommon boards I have are SKCC so I'm not in a position to trade anyway. hopefully everyone involved in the trade is very happy with the arrangements. curious to know what sort of board you ended up trading for

XMIT · 10 Apr 2021, 21:21

Apologies to anyone who didn't make it. I do have some F122s and some NIB late '80s Model M boards for potential future trades.

XMIT · 15 Apr 2021, 19:46

Time for the big reveal!

As I mentioned, I received a number of offers for trades. The market value for an Unsaver seems to be somewhere between $1500 and $2500. But I didn't want cash for this Unsaver.

I also received a number of offers for some really beautiful 3278 Beamsprings! But as I mentioned, I already have one or two of those. I would have gladly taken a Beamship but they were not offered.

As stated earlier, Muramasa offered the most interesting trade, which turned out to be, a pair of boards.

The first was a 3277 Microswitch board with triple shots! Some of you know how I love Micro Switch boards even if conversion efforts are still on going. The board was previously mentioned here: viewtopic.php?p=443566#p443566

The second was a JUKI Celavi FK211, which, let's be honest, is probably the closest I'm going to get to a Nissho KB106DE. It's a gorgeous board in its own right and not a compromise by any means.

Here they are!

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I want to thank Muramasa again for the trade, and for bearing with me over the course of weeks while I figured everything out. Muramasa's board is now safely with their proxy, and hopefully they will get hands on it soon. Cheers!

raoulduke-esq · 15 Apr 2021, 20:15

I'm sad I had nothing even approaching the value of your Unsaver but I'm thrilled for you that you got some cool stuff you're excited about. Enjoy those keyboards!!

Muramasa · 16 Apr 2021, 00:17

Thanks for the chance to get one of these! been on the hunt for many years, finally will have it here soon. Will post pics once it arrives

Double_Shot_ABS · 16 Apr 2021, 02:48

John Doe · 16 Apr 2021, 04:37

O...k

I wish I have grabbed the chance to trade the unsaver, cuz I do have way to get a KB106DE...

But its good to see the result.

Jacobalbertus1 · 16 Apr 2021, 05:17

XMIT wrote: ↑
15 Apr 2021, 19:46
Time for the big reveal! ....

I also received a number of offers for some really beautiful 3278 Beamsprings! But as I mentioned, I already have one or two of those. I would have gladly taken a Beamship but they were not offered.......

good luck on that one, Beamship way better than the unsaver. not giving up LMAO

XMIT · 16 Apr 2021, 05:34

Jacobalbertus1 wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 05:17
good luck on that one, Beamship way better than the unsaver. not giving up LMAO

Beamship is a great board, I hope you enjoy it!

Jacobalbertus1 · 16 Apr 2021, 05:37

XMIT wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 05:34

Beamship is a great board, I hope you enjoy it!

daily driver LMAO

John Doe · 16 Apr 2021, 05:43

Jacobalbertus1 wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 05:37

XMIT wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 05:34

Beamship is a great board, I hope you enjoy it!
daily driver LMAO

Man, dont need remind us so frequent about the beamship, yes, we do envy.

XMIT · 16 Apr 2021, 14:58

John Doe wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 04:37
I wish I have grabbed the chance to trade the unsaver, cuz I do have way to get a KB106DE...

I feel like you had plenty of time. But if you get a KB106DE in hand, let me know and maybe we can work something else out.

John Doe · 16 Apr 2021, 15:08

XMIT wrote: ↑
16 Apr 2021, 14:58
I feel like you had plenty of time.

How u feel?