It has blacksLalaland124 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 18:33Is this a NCR branded G80 with vintage blacks or could it have Alps Skcl Green?
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- Lalaland124
- Main keyboard: 3278
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
Thanks! I also found this one: Seller says it doesn't click.. Some weird variant of Fujitsu leaf spring?
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- Location: Canada
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Nope, it's Fujitsu peerless switches. Fujitsu leaf spring switches have a soft tap sound when the switch actuates.Lalaland124 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 18:38Thanks! I also found this one: Seller says it doesn't click.. Some weird variant of Fujitsu leaf spring?
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- Location: Czech Republic
- Main keyboard: BTC 5169
- Main mouse: CZC GM600
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That does look like FLS 3rd gen though. (and there are linear FLSs, right?)
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
They're clicky Fujitsu Leaf Springs. One of my white whales. Lalaland124, I'd buy it from you.xxhellfirexx wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 21:06Nope, it's Fujitsu peerless switches. Fujitsu leaf spring switches have a soft tap sound when the switch actuates.Lalaland124 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 18:38Thanks! I also found this one: Seller says it doesn't click.. Some weird variant of Fujitsu leaf spring?
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- Thorogrimm
- Location: England, UK
- Main keyboard: Niz C103
- Main mouse: Razer Viper Mini
- Favorite switch: Topre Electro-Capacitive
BTC 5121, can't seem to find anything about this particular model. I'm assuming BTC dome with sliders but I'm not 100% on this.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Membrane. Not even a dome w/slider (which are good).
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- Thorogrimm
- Location: England, UK
- Main keyboard: Niz C103
- Main mouse: Razer Viper Mini
- Favorite switch: Topre Electro-Capacitive
Decent, huh? I've heard good things about BTC but I've never been sold on membrane keyboards since almost every one I've tried is mushyhellothere wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021, 00:47Membrane. Not even a dome w/slider (which are good).
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- Noobmaen
- Location: Bonn, Germany
- Main keyboard: FC660M MX Brown, HHKB, IBM6580
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Beamspring, Vintage MX brown, Cap. BS
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This is a membrane based variant of fujitsu leafspring. I have one of these boards, and it is among the worst variants of FLS that I tried, linear and light, short travel of only about 3.2mm, strange bottom out feel.Lalaland124 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 18:38Thanks! I also found this one: Seller says it doesn't click.. Some weird variant of Fujitsu leaf spring?
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Now that I look at it more, there are 2 styles of desktop keyboards Fujitsu made for different vendors and this is in the "Sanyo style" with the cable coming from the left, the flat ridge at the top, bumpy case texture, and gentle slope at the front bezel. Then there is the more common "Tandy style" with the cable coming from the middle, bumpy ridge at the top, grooves in the left and right side, a bigger front bezel, and a thicker hollow bottom.Lalaland124 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2021, 18:38Thanks! I also found this one: Seller says it doesn't click.. Some weird variant of Fujitsu leaf spring?
Generally, the Sanyo version is better built with 3mm thick ABS caps instead of PBT and a steel back panel instead of plastic. However, there is not much known about it the Sanyo version. The XT version came with the MBC-16 Plus and I do not know which computer the AT version came with. I found this video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxV_8kXn3o.
Here is a gallery comparing the differences of the two styles: https://imgur.com/a/EWsBJ5W
- Lalaland124
- Main keyboard: 3278
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
Thanks, I ended up not buying it and I'm quite happy about this decision.
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- Location: Greifswald/Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F XT
- Main mouse: ShhhMouse
- Favorite switch: Capacitive buckling spring
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Does anyone know what kind of switches the keyboard of the Tulip Compact 1 can come with?
Does this keyboard have some weird protocol or can it be used with Soarer's converter?
Does this keyboard have some weird protocol or can it be used with Soarer's converter?
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- Location: United States
Tulip generally comes with cherry switches. But I couldn't tell you without seeing the switch.
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- Location: Czech Republic
- Main keyboard: BTC 5169
- Main mouse: CZC GM600
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IIRC also SMKs? (Monterey)
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- Location: London
- Main keyboard: Wy-60
- Favorite switch: Vint Black baby FIGHT ME!
Yeah and alps as well.
- Thorogrimm
- Location: England, UK
- Main keyboard: Niz C103
- Main mouse: Razer Viper Mini
- Favorite switch: Topre Electro-Capacitive
Anyone have an idea?
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Not Alps
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
While I am most probably right that this doesn't have Alps switches, I also checked and there's a good probability that this thing probably doesn't speak AT or XT.
- Thorogrimm
- Location: England, UK
- Main keyboard: Niz C103
- Main mouse: Razer Viper Mini
- Favorite switch: Topre Electro-Capacitive
It's probably why the listing for it was cheaphellothere wrote: ↑11 Apr 2021, 00:26While I am most probably right that this doesn't have Alps switches, I also checked and there's a good probability that this thing probably doesn't speak AT or XT.
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
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My gut says foam and foil, like the C3 Maestro controllers. Caps are doubleshot but the switch feel will be poor.
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- Location: Brisbane, Australia
There's a couple of threads with vague info on the internals:
'The PCB side of the keys were very light gold plated (very!) and they oxidized in a hurry after that time. The PCB of the Interface also was bonded paper (Pertinax)' from here https://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=885&start=8
'the caps got connection problems and had do be repaired with some kind of conductive paint' from https://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2972s&start=2
'I was able to revive keyboard by sticking foil pads on keys' from https://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3698&start=7. This thread also has the complete details of the interface, which is not AT/XT, as attachments.
Does not seem like Keytronic F&F (no exposed pads, and KT generally made pretty high quality PCBs), possibly conductive dome over PCB?
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboa ... 4678562684
Burroughs Century and SR 100 keyboards. I think probably foam and foil, but the wiki lists opto-electric for another model. Anyone have any ideas?
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Burroughs Century and SR 100 keyboards. I think probably foam and foil, but the wiki lists opto-electric for another model. Anyone have any ideas?
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- Lalaland124
- Main keyboard: 3278
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
It's a Kaypro 4 computer - anyone got ideas what switches it comes with?
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- Lalaland124
- Main keyboard: 3278
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
Nevermind, got it
It's the SMK J-M0404
It's the SMK J-M0404
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Possibly Cherry, but probably foam & foil.
FWIW, I like the idea of the tilde/accent (`~) key way far away from the other keys. However, I really dislike where the backslash/bar is (\|).
FWIW, I like the idea of the tilde/accent (`~) key way far away from the other keys. However, I really dislike where the backslash/bar is (\|).
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- Location: Germany
Yeah it's a weird layout.hellothere wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 01:31Possibly Cherry, but probably foam & foil.
FWIW, I like the idea of the tilde/accent (`~) key way far away from the other keys. However, I really dislike where the backslash/bar is (\|).
The label reminds me of Sanyo keyboards font and since it's from Japan I thought it might be a Fujitsu board.
I think I'll just spend the 30bucks for the community.
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- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: Apple Extended Keyboard II with Matias Clicky
- Main mouse: Logitech G600
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Amber
Anybody recognize this odd ball who use usb for plugging into a macintosh era imac g3 and use some alps style pin socket position ?
- Thorogrimm
- Location: England, UK
- Main keyboard: Niz C103
- Main mouse: Razer Viper Mini
- Favorite switch: Topre Electro-Capacitive
This is a BTC 78xx but I don't know what switches they have