Banned from Geehack

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off

25 Jun 2012, 21:07

ripster wrote:And anyhow, NOT MY FAULT if Captain and Input Nirvana and Texas Flood can't stay on topic!
Actually I was referring to your [**************] about geekhack that had gotten boring..
input nirvana wrote:I'm just trying to keep it all in perspective (banning/life issues). But you're right, I always roam off topic...like it's a damn chat room or something.

I'll stop being a bad forum member. I give myself infraction points since Mkawa isn't here to do it for me.
And that was actually the reason for me coming back here despite the boredom.
That and the faint hope of iMav barging in and at least having his side heard, slightly balancing the single-sidedly-ad-nauseum-repeated wail against geekhack.
Ah well, thread is not for me I guess.

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webwit
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25 Jun 2012, 21:09

iMav is a liar, so what he says is worthless.

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off

25 Jun 2012, 21:18

eh.. I know some people are dicks, some are pathological liars, some are wall-o'-texters, etc etc; but none of those completely invalidate what they have to say imho, although in the case of liars you have to really dig through and somehow get past the doubt; which is fucking hard IRL to say the least, and ofcourse even more so on the internets. But I still stand by that noone is completely meaningless (which is what that came down to in my interpretation).
Besides, it'd be a welcome change of theme; aren't you bored by this thread?

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TexasFlood

25 Jun 2012, 23:05

Don't think iMav ever lied to me although I honestly haven't had that much communication with him. Can't speak to his communications with others in which I was not an involved party. iMav gave me a free geekhack key and the use of his forums. Better wrap this up, Ripster calling me off topic again.

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off

25 Jun 2012, 23:23

You're off-topic.


I'll stay there too, topic is boring anyhow. :P
Call me naive btw; I am, in some respects; most of those by choice though (i.e. more 'trusting' than naive. I hope).

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webwit
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25 Jun 2012, 23:33

Example: he deleted all my posts, then told the geekhack community I requested that.

mintberryminuscrunch

25 Jun 2012, 23:40

anyone else getting a blank page when going to deskthority.net (not spy.php just the topdomain)
or did I break my browser again :roll:

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TexasFlood

25 Jun 2012, 23:55

mintberryminuscrunch wrote:anyone else getting a blank page when going to deskthority.net (not spy.php just the topdomain)
or did I break my browser again :roll:
Not today but got that briefly yesterday.

ripster

26 Jun 2012, 04:44

webwit wrote:iMav is a liar, so what he says is worthless.
Wait,I never called iMav a liar.

He told the Geeckhack Moderator Team that I was a liar!
Originally Posted by iMav
I need a couple of mods to grab all the content from the "wikis" that are in Ripster's subforum. (the links on the drop down menu tab now point to those threads...since the wiki is completely hosed.) Grab all text and download all attachments (and make any notes neccessary so that you can recreate the wiki). Also, please chime in here if you do this, so I know who is taking on this task (2 or 3 redundancy please!).

Ripster whacked Harrison via the stupid spam plug in. (it's not very well written) he knew exactly what he was doing because he did the same thing to another user awhile back "accidentally". But this time, he hard deleted all the content. And, to make matters worse, my backup media was not mounted properly after a reboot a few weeks back. So the latest backup is OLD...and selective restoration is not possible. So Harrison is a casualty...

That spam plugin is now disabled. So be on the lookout for more spam. Ashort is setup to whack spam accounts.

Ripster is going to have to go. This last incident + his lying to me about it is the last straw. However, I don't want anything said or done to him by the mods. I will deal with him after the hardware upgrade this weekend (YOU guys grab the wiki content).
BLAMES ME FOR NEVER READING HIS PMS!

And I never called him a Forum Nazi Moderator. I called him a Stalinist Forum Moderator.
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And thanks folks for all the login sockpuppet accounts! Keep pm'ing me those login ids and passwords!
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ripster

26 Jun 2012, 05:12

But anyhoo, let's get this Ripster Praise thread BACK on track shall we? It's about to hit 10,000 views and I HATE disappointing my Gentle Readers.
Source:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?3186 ... rma-banned
didjamatic wrote:I have been more entertained, annoyed and informed by Ripster's posts than any other member.

Will this be the end or a new beginning?

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keyboardlover wrote:I agree that he spammed a lot. He even once nuked my account and Harrison's which was pretty bad. I actually was overall liking his attitude the last few months better than, say, a year or two ago. But I'm sure he pissed off the wrong people.

What can I say, I sort of had a love/hate relationship but part of me will definitely miss him.

However, ultimately I plan to:

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R.I.P. Ripster
laffindude wrote:If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." < This is what I expected.
1391401 wrote:Nevar forget
input nirvana wrote:I'm not happy with that outcome. Bottom line: Newbies and such are the losers. Why?: 3 years ago when I found GH, it was because I wanted to cut a Kinesis Advantage into 2 halves. I found GH because someone posted that same question and it never got answered. I scoured everywhere...the information DID NOT EXIST IN ANY FORM. So I decided to make GH home, use the resources GH had to offer. I asked, begged, pleaded, spent tons of time forming 'relationships', and eventually compiled enough info about:

Plastics cutting/filing/brightening/welding, soldering/desoldering, key switches, key caps types/plastics/profiles, legend types/fonts, leds, usb/ps2, Ping!, controllers, matrix, hot chicks with keyboards, key dampening, purchasing sources for anything, ergonomic issues, misc. keyboard related items too numerous to mention, almost at the point of learning programming custom controllers (not the hard stuff, just the project stuff), I've bought and sold a few input devices to try and discover neat stuff, I'm currently shipping/forwarding keyboards to Europe for some peeps on Deskthority, I may have helped a couple peeps with RSI issues, and I've met a few really, really neat peeps that one day may even cross over into the FRIEND zone....the list goes on...

Yea, my contact with Ripster was on the minimal side, because he's not ergo. But how much of what I listed above was Ripster made/influenced/assisted? A LOT. When I sent him a PM, he answered it to the best of his ability. Say anything you want, but his ability is HIGH. I am one of the few people that never tossed in on the #1 Keyboard Expert on the Planet...because I thought it was funnier to NOT be a source.

In my opinion, the strength of GH is weakened, but at least a few peeps on the forum won't get into spats or feelings hurt. I never got involved with a Ripster-related spat, so I know it can be done easily. Took no effort on my part, and I've had some presence on the forum for a while. Takes two to tango. The only issues I ever had were with 2-3 buttholes that tried using me as a punching bag. We all saw how nasty I got, so let's not go there again.

Input Nirvana OUT!
hashbaz wrote:I'll miss ripster. Too bad it had to come to this.
HolidaySHRIMP wrote:R.I.P. ripster bro.

He made a comment on my very first post that made me laugh and didn't scare me away. He also wrote useful and/or entertaining articles.

I'll miss my broski. No homo all bromo.
thegunner100 wrote:Posted this in the other thread, but I guess I'll post it here as well:

I've been here for less than a year, but GH is definately gonna be different without ripster... in a bad way. I've come to learn about and love keyboards because of all the articles that he has put up. Not only that, but he also had random comments/articles that were off-topic but entertaining/educational.

R.I.P.ster :hug:
squarebox wrote:RIP to one of the last few good souls in GH.
dirge wrote:Could someone run a remembrance keycap group buy?

RIP
Ripster

In helvetica and correct kerning?
didjamatic wrote:What have you personally contributed here? How many people have you helped? The Johnny come lately band wagon hopping mob nonsense make you look and sound like a tool.
Ripster did tick some people off but helped more than he hindered. Threatening to reveal someone's mailing address should be an infraction and if you did so, should be a permaban, if it's not in the forum rules it should be. That's far worse than any of the other so-called infractions that are being enforced with an unlubed iron fist around here.
inlikeflynn wrote:well this sucks. I tend to try and stay out of the ongoing GH controversy, but this is too F'ing stupid.

What sort of positive outcome is there for GH by banning/losing yet another senior member with the wealth of knowledge he has?
The only reason seems to be to keep the young newbie members happy and make things all nice and safe like school these days. Meaning no jokes, no teasing, no off-topic, no fun, & we cannot just have a single #1 keyboard expert on the planet...we all must be keyboard experts in our own and unique way as we must be fair to all

WTF :mad2:

I've been here since late 2010, which is longer than the vast majority of people posting these days. So I''ve seen the various incarnations of Ripster and sadly Ripster of 2010 was his best days before the complainers started to move in. Heck even most of Ripster and KL's fighting back in the day was good for a laugh even. So if they are putting their differences behind them to stand up to the new rules that should be quite the sign of a problem with the site's direction?

So what really is the problem with the pre-banned may2012 Ripster?
-He went back to being helpful and posting proper direct links and not just "its in my sig" messages on every post
-He no longer tells jokes outside his sub-forum
-He doesn't go off-topic too much outside his sub-forum
-He does challenge the mod's and new rules put in place. But is that really a bad thing when we don't have well defined rules and consistent moderation taking place? Seemingly the only reason for any of these changes is to please the young newbies who need everything all nice and safe. I'd rather have Ripster here than real trolls like tp4tissue, or whatever the heck his name is. All that guy did was troll and cause problems on purpose and contributed nothing to GH

When the top 3 US/Europe keyboard experts (ripster/webwit/sixty) have now all left GH either by choice or by force shouldn't that be a sign a problem with the direction GH is taking?

thankfully this post is in KL's subforum so it might exist for longer then 15 seconds.....I'm sure i'll be put in time out now to though
RiffRaff wrote:Yeah it was a tragedy...

I doubt this is the end of Ripster on GH.

I think UCB said it best, everybody needs to cool out.

Granted he posted a lot, but I know everyone in this thread at one point or another got a chuckle off of his posts.
didjamatic wrote:"DT is where all the spammers go."? Are you serious?

Actually the trend is this: DT is where the people go who have done the most mods, have the largest keyboard collections and the most knowledge to offer others seeking it. Yes, it comes with chatter because you only talk strictly about switches caps and layouts so much before you want to inject some variety and fun into discussions. If all you want is reference material go read white papers.
And Especially the guy that taught me about nose grease, the Artist Weirdo ClickClack! and that Pervy Italian Guy!
o2dazone wrote:Ripster (along with Sandy55 and a few others) were one of the few contributors who added something more to this forum than the run in the mill clickclack dickwaving. R.I.P.ster
clickclack wrote:I agree, even when people are waving my member, I agree.
R.I.Pster
clickclack wrote:I thought geekhack was interesting but it was ripster who got me to join. My avatar was an inspired tribute to him as well when I joined.
R.I.P.ster
itlnstln wrote:What a ****ing disaster...
KL closes the Ripster Praise thread.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?3186 ... nned/page8

Trashes ItlnStln's thread with ClickClack's lovely post.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29724-Wassup!
clickclack wrote:I thought geekhack was interesting but it was ripster who got me to join. My avatar was an inspired tribute to him as well when I joined.
R.I.P.ster
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TRASHED it I say!!!!
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ClickClack - thanks for the story. Join here, PM me, and I can share email address sometime.


As always there are a few dissenters
iMav wrote:Even I have my limits. Let's leave it at that.
Awful wrote:Webwit was always the #1 expert anyway.
Lanx wrote:ppl goto DT, when GH is down, otherwise it's the same 10 ppl talking to each other, sounds like a circle jerk.

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Input Nirvana

26 Jun 2012, 08:00

Dang! Do I always write so much?

mkawa

26 Jun 2012, 08:30

yah, pretty much. eh, you're an expressive dude; nothing wrong with that.

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Input Nirvana

26 Jun 2012, 08:40

From now on I'm gonna post even less and kick everything else down about 5 notches and see what happens.

net2522

26 Jun 2012, 08:54

Bump!!

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Input Nirvana

26 Jun 2012, 15:33

Ok, now you guys are just being silly.

Banning at GH is serious biz.

I remember the good old days when being on the "Banned of Brothers" list was a badge of honor. Now it just feels cheap.

Back on topic!

ripster

26 Jun 2012, 15:45

I believe that I am the ONLY permabanned Geekhacker.

But then I WAS Number One at Geekhack in EVERYTHING.

Hell, I was even a better Ripster Subforum MODERATOR than iMav ever will be. All he does is take the lazy man's method of censoring by deleting posts and new registrants randomly.

ripster

26 Jun 2012, 16:43

IMav. You need STRONGER IP blocking!




Rofl, of course his post will get deleted so I better save it.

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No that I want to face the same fate as ripster, but isn't the P ANIC key's kerning broken?:D
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captain

26 Jun 2012, 19:35

iMav needs to admit defeat and let you back in, and fire the goon squad, and stop taking on the role of babysitter. If it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide.

Is there any way you could post the actual links at geekhack, instead of the gtunnels? They just don't work--well, not that I really want to wade through the ROUS-filled fireswamps over there, but a broken link is a broken link.

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captain

26 Jun 2012, 19:37

ripster wrote: And I never called him a Forum Nazi Moderator. I called him a Stalinist Forum Moderator.
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Do not obey the scary bi-tonal head!

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(hang on -- I have to change devices)

I have worked hard, studied, discussed... and I still do not know how to deal with a liar.

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Djuzuh

26 Jun 2012, 19:38

captain wrote:if it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide
Don't agree.

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captain

26 Jun 2012, 19:44

Thanks for making my point so very clearly. In the Stalinist BBS your post would already be deleted! ;-)

itlnstln

26 Jun 2012, 19:46

Djuzuh wrote:
captain wrote:if it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide
Don't agree.
Sez teh moderator...

There are moderators here, but we have a mature user base that doesn't cry to mommy when they get butt-hurt. Those that cried were, well, they're not here anymore.

Djuzuh

26 Jun 2012, 19:49

I am no mod.

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captain

26 Jun 2012, 19:57

But if you were a mod, then you would just delete anything you didn't personally agree with, right? It would be as if I had never even been here! ;-)

How is that conducive to open free communication among consenting adults? Seriously, how is censoring and banning the most active and intelligent members of a community beneficial in any way?

Djuzuh

26 Jun 2012, 20:00

captain wrote:But if you were a mod, then you would just delete anything you didn't personally agree with, right? It would be as if I had never even been here! ;-)

How is that conducive to open free communication among consenting adults? Seriously, how is censoring and banning the most active and intelligent members of a community beneficial in any way?
Why would you assume this?

Just because my personal opinion towards the perfect BBS is different than yours doesn't mean I'll be hitler's successor if I get mod power.

I'm actually very lean back as mod.

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rknize

26 Jun 2012, 20:21

captain wrote: If it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide.
That sounds super. Where is your Internet forum/BBS?

Djuzuh

26 Jun 2012, 20:22

rknize wrote:
captain wrote: If it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide.
That sounds super. Where is your Internet forum/BBS?

4chan.org/b.

Isn't it perfect?

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captain

26 Jun 2012, 20:32

I assume nothing, which is why I ask you to explain and defend your position of disagreement with everything I contend makes a vibrant community--or by quoting me and writing "Don't agree" did you actually not mean that you disagree with everything quoted, but expected me to magically infer some subset of disagreement? I was hoping to read a well argued case for the neu Cyber-Marxist-Lenonism, but you're leaving me wanting. Are you not up for a friendly debate? (or have I been successfully trolled? :-P)

Also, I don't believe in perfectionism. I'm all about the wabi-sabi. :-)

Djuzuh

26 Jun 2012, 20:42

Oh sorry, you wanted to discuss it :s. I misunderstood you.

Well, basically. A forum is here to serve a purpose (or multiple ones). Well, most forums do. So rules need to be here in order to achieve this purpose. If the point of your forum is to exchange informations about a specific topic, then for example, flame and flood should be prohibited, as it adds noise and makes it difficult to hold an informative conversation. This way the forum will be better to exchange informations. Even if flood is not against the law.

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captain

26 Jun 2012, 20:57

rknize wrote:
captain wrote: If it isn't libelous, or severely illegal, then hands off. That's how you run a successful BBS. Grownups abide.
That sounds super. Where is your Internet forum/BBS?
It's well hidden, to keep the riff raff out! LOL! :-D

(But seriously, I've run my share, never deleted a single post, and only rarely even had to suggest modifications to anyone. Maybe I set a better example, and they followed. Maybe kids just had better manners in my day, or maybe it was just too much trouble to troll with smoke signals back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.)

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I agree with the above. Posts that are clear violations of the most important rules, and detract from the discussions should be dealt with. I do not think that deleting users' posts is the best way to deal with it though. We are not dealing with bacteria; we are dealing with human beings. As such, addressing each individual with due respect, and asking him to correct his mistakes, leads to a much happier and better behaved population. That said, fora contain noise. If they didn't, they'd simply be whitepapers, and who wants to read whitepapers all day?!
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