[IC] HyperMicro and HyperMini Keyboard

[TDub]

@bpiphany
Very nice staggered keyboards. I used 0.25x stagger like you suggest in the ones I proposed for the HyperMicro size. I'd be pretty happy with a TKL or 60% using the layout you have, with maybe just a split spacebar added. Oh, and ANSI of course.

My friend who has that otaku tenkeyless was like "I want one! But I want a tenkeyless!" And I was like come on TKL is just silly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH8btv7Fvq8 Then I was like "OK but it ain't going to be pretty... Did some hack and slashing =)


Anyway, I was planning on sneaking the possibility to use symmetric stagger onto the "phantom" round 2 PCB. That one won't be 60% though, tenkeyless will work.

I am curious how is the teensy fixated on the pcb? Just with the wires?

[fossala]

I think I can see some hot glue to the left of the teensy.

[bpiphany]

I think I can see some hot glue to the left of the teensy.

Twice as versatile as duct tape =D

[fossala]

I think I can see some hot glue to the left of the teensy.

Twice as versatile as duct tape =D

No more nails tape is good.
http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/tiles/adhe ... kies=false

[trax]

If theres enough interest for an alps board, where would the alps come from?

EDIT: Mathias?

[7bit]

If theres enough interest for an alps board, where would the alps come from?

EDIT: Mathias?

Seems so.

[fossala]

If theres enough interest for an alps board, where would the alps come from?

EDIT: Mathias?

Did they ever say a price?

[trax]

If theres enough interest for an alps board, where would the alps come from?

EDIT: Mathias?

Did they ever say a price?

His geek hack thread stated: "Price will be $100 for a box of 800 switches (12.5¢ per switch.)"
He later also said there would be an option to buy ~100 switches at a time.

I don't think anyone was able to order switches from him at this time though.

Matias White ALPS Switches (those are the clicky ones) in his Tactile 4 aren't for sale yet either.

[tlt]

How about combining the revers staggering board with the trackpoint board. Than we can put the trackpoint in the gap between G and H and won't have to use special key caps. This might make everyone happy or maybe no one

[fossala]

How about combining the revers staggering board with the trackpoint board. Than we can put the trackpoint in the gap between G and H and won't have to use special key caps. This might make everyone happy or maybe no one

Would make me happy.

[Jim66]

Yes, that would be a pretty nice idea. Was the scroll wheel a real idea or was it just a joke?

[7bit]

Yes, that would be a pretty nice idea. Was the scroll wheel a real idea or was it just a joke?

It's for real. I just need to know where to get scroll wheels which are nice and fit on the keyboard.

[Jim66]

Wouldn't a third mouse button (like the thinkpads) be easier?

[mSSM]

...

I really like it!


Now I need sources for:
- trackpoint
- scroll wheel (preferably a smooth one)
- micro-switches

miniguru ...

[7bit]

Wouldn't a third mouse button (like the thinkpads) be easier?

The qHACK comes already with 3 mouse buttons.

But I still need sources for:
- trackpoint
- scroll wheel (preferably a smooth one)
- micro-switches (mouse buttons)

[webwit]

For completeness the qwerty ansi and iso versions.

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[webwit]

miniguru ...

It's the HHKB + miniguru + IBM Erase-Eaze. I added the scroll wheel and Duck key. Although the Duck key doesn't count because the actual scan code is up to the user (like Windows context menu key or something).

It's like an Apple product, it combines theses features into a neat single package... and BAM...revolutionary!

[fossala]

You forgot dvorak!!!

[t!ng]

Its like Steve Jobs went just into you webwit.

[mSSM]

miniguru ...

It's the HHKB + miniguru + IBM Erase-Eaze. I added the scroll wheel and Duck key. Although the Duck key doesn't count because the actual scan code is up to the user (like Windows context menu key or something).

It's like an Apple product, it combines theses features into a neat single package... and BAM...revolutionary!

If you make this happen, I might get two of those...

Why don't you contact lowpoly asking him about the supply for the trackpoint at least? In case he still is alive that is... I believe he is running around at geekhack occassionally.

[webwit]

I remember he elaborated in his miniguru thread about finding the right trackpoint supplier. Should be somewhere in there. Should be a good one. The early IBM Model M13 versions are very good, I didn't like trackpoints before I used that one. You won't use it for photoshop or gaming, but when you're working on the keyboard and just need to hit a button or menu, it's perfect and keeps your hands on the keyboard.

An additional problem which keeps this pipe dream from becoming reality would be the custom space/back space bar sizes. Small right shift and g/h might also be difficult to obtain.

[trax]

I remember he elaborated in his miniguru thread about finding the right trackpoint supplier. Should be somewhere in there. Should be a good one. The early IBM Model M13 versions are very good, I didn't like trackpoints before I used that one. You won't use it for photoshop or gaming, but when you're working on the keyboard and just need to hit a button or menu, it's perfect and keeps your hands on the keyboard.

An additional problem which keeps this pipe dream from becoming reality would be the custom space/back space bar sizes. Small right shift and g/h might also be difficult to obtain.

Sounds like I need to buy a cherry doubleshot set from ascaii that was obtained from a tp-board.
Other caps shouldnt be so hard I don't think - maybe imsto can delivar some nice pbt caps,, ooor 7bit?

IMO the best pointing stick I've used was the TrackPoint on a lenovo thinkpad.
We could obtain those from laptop keyboards for sale on ebay etc.
Laptop keyboards with pointing sticks can be bought for around 15-30 dollars (refurbished most of the time).
Oh also Unicomp owns the copyright on the "old" IBM pointing sticks.

This would be a good ebay listing to harvest from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Keyboard-fo ... 2ec0492261
It says "TrackPoint" but its for a DELL so unsure about how it performs.

[webwit]

I have some M13 trackpoints/buttons from Unicomp

Spoiler:

Hmm, maybe we should take this from 7bit's thread and move into a qHACK thread?

[trax]

I have some M13 trackpoints/buttons from Unicomp

Spoiler:

Hmm, maybe we should take this from 7bit's thread and move into a qHACK thread?

Yea maybe...
Let's ask the admin.

[webwit]

Like the Demongolator? He's a hater.

[7bit]

...
Hmm, maybe we should take this from 7bit's thread and move into a qHACK thread?

U crazy???

An additional problem which keeps this pipe dream from becoming reality would be the custom space/back space bar sizes. Small right shift and g/h might also be difficult to obtain.

No problem with the 2.5 and 3 units keys. They exist both for DCS and SA family from SP.

Cutting G and H should be doable.

Trackpoint could be added in the way CeeSA did it on the Tipro.
The mousebuttons need to go on their own PCB, because there is no space below the bottom row. The qHACK requires a special case.

One option would be to use some of the bottom row keys as mousebuttons.

The scroll-wheel is another problem ...

RollermouseFree.

If we just take the wheel unit witout its PCB it should be no problem.

This for sure is nicer:


But it takes up 2 units.

Idea for the mouse buttons:
Dedicated PCB for the qHACK with space in the bottom row for the mouse buttons.
3 holes in the case with 3 cylinders over the 3 microswitches.

[tlt]

Maybe we can buy new trackpoints and buttons from Unicomp?

[tlt]

These scroll wheels seems nice http://www.logitech.com/lang/pdf/ib-mic ... ift_EN.pdf I wonder it they are too big to fit. they can be harvested out of Logitech Corded Mouse M500 which are cheap. I think I'm going to buy one and take it apart

Edit: That thing looks like it's to big and complicated http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/vi ... 27&t=63394

[trax]

Was in a big electronics store today, had a quick peek at the keyboard section (they have around 50 models).
None had a pointing stick.

[hoggy]

I'm interested, not sure about which options just yet, but will be buying something.