Great/Interesting Finds

larryniven

04 Aug 2016, 01:45

lot_lizard wrote:
larryniven wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112079867737

Model M with APL caps?
Those smell like Hooleon or the like to me. The company has been around since the mid-80s, and that font face and weight looks familiar. The X, S, G, Numpad, etc... Just a touch off

http://shop.hooleon.com
Can you elaborate a bit more? I can't see the difference if you compare the listed and this one http://i.imgur.com/TTHef.jpg .

The entire album for those interested. http://imgur.com/a/q0c8A

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lot_lizard

04 Aug 2016, 02:13

larryniven wrote: Can you elaborate a bit more? I can't see the difference if you compare the listed and this one http://i.imgur.com/TTHef.jpg .

The entire album for those interested. http://imgur.com/a/q0c8A
I'm not 100% certain, but confident enough to avoid it myself. I can contact Joan (still runs the outfit after Bob "retired") if you like and ask. There were only a couple of players in that space at the time. I wouldn't assume the pictures you are finding are actual IBM caps btw, even if from Ripster. No one is suggesting it isn't a nice board, I just personally believe the caps are aftermarket based on font deviations (only IBM has full access to their font, and their variances during the M era typically revolved around weight, not face). I have a couple Hooleon boards packed away, and the font faces have a striking similarity.


But again... Could be wrong. Hence the "smells" comment previously. Just adding awareness

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LewisR

04 Aug 2016, 02:32

lot_lizard wrote:
larryniven wrote: Can you elaborate a bit more? I can't see the difference if you compare the listed and this one http://i.imgur.com/TTHef.jpg .

The entire album for those interested. http://imgur.com/a/q0c8A
I'm not 100% certain, but confident enough to avoid it myself. I can contact Joan (still runs the outfit after Bob "retired") if you like and ask. There were only a couple of players in that space at the time. I wouldn't assume the pictures you are finding are actual IBM caps btw, even if from Ripster. No one is suggesting it isn't a nice board, I just personally believe the caps are aftermarket based on font deviations (only IBM has full access to their font, and their variances during the M era typically revolved around weight, not face). I have a couple Hooleon boards packed away, and the font faces have a striking similarity.


But again... Could be wrong. Hence the "smells" comment previously. Just adding awareness
@ and ~ look more like my XT's legends than the two Ms I have. ~ on ebay board looks different though (possibly different or just bad pic?).
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fohat
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04 Aug 2016, 03:24

I recently sorted a big bag of original IBM caps, all from the 1980s and early 1990s, and was shocked at the differences that I found in the legends - weight (individual keys or collectively as sets), location (some legends were so deep into the top left corners that they were practically over the edges), not to mention at least half a dozen colors of sub-legends.

orihalcon

04 Aug 2016, 04:28

The way I usually tell if they are real APL is if "APL" is on the front of the Backspace key. Is missing from this one and Ripster's too actually. Anyone have a known true example of model M or F APL caps that does not have "APL" on the backspace key?

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lot_lizard

04 Aug 2016, 20:50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262550579188

One of the best shape Goodwill F's you'll ever see

Jimi14

04 Aug 2016, 20:58

Found this weird looking Acer 6312 variation.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clicky-Keyboard ... SwgY9Xdwny

And this ergonomic KB-7001 with an alps mount switch i cant identify (also Acers?)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KB-7001-ergonom ... SwtnpXnSON

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seebart
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04 Aug 2016, 22:36

fohat wrote: I recently sorted a big bag of original IBM caps, all from the 1980s and early 1990s, and was shocked at the differences that I found in the legends - weight (individual keys or collectively as sets), location (some legends were so deep into the top left corners that they were practically over the edges), not to mention at least half a dozen colors of sub-legends.
Agreed, there are quite a few variations and exceptions, this 3178 F of mine is a good example with it's smaller off centered legends:
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Slom

04 Aug 2016, 22:38

Is this cherry? The key caps look remarkably white compared to the case:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Klassische-Highs ... 2216240028

The rest are all rather interesting than great (price-wise), also all more than just a keyboard:

Heath Zenith Data system Z100 (Alps vintage tee, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53507.0)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-Heath-Ze ... 1897994588

Perkin Elmer Bantman 550 Data system (I suspect Hi-Tek switches, based on the other Perkin Elmer in the wiki)
Great colours, and the sublegends for the numblock are awesome
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Perkin-Elmer-Ban ... 1896644892

CASIO FP 6000
Does anyone know what switches these have
Great colours as well (Google for pictures of the complete keyboard)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/CASIO-FP-6000-PE ... 2123045504
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Rimrul

04 Aug 2016, 22:42

Slom wrote: Is this cherry? The key caps look remarkably white compared to the case:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Klassische-Highs ... 2216240028
I'm 90% certain it's a G81.
The non-yellowed caps could indicate PBT dye subs.

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Techno Trousers
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04 Aug 2016, 22:50

Slom wrote: Perkin Elmer Bantman 550 Data system
Great colours, and the sublegends for the numblock are awesome
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Perkin-Elmer-Ban ... 1896644892
Wow, that's beautiful. Someone should run a spherical key cap group buy based on that color scheme.

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seebart
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04 Aug 2016, 23:03

Indeed awesome caps and nice color scheme. Not cheap though. :o
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photekq
Cherry Picker

04 Aug 2016, 23:24

Slom wrote: Is this cherry? The key caps look remarkably white compared to the case:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Klassische-Highs ... 2216240028
Yes. DE dyesubs on that one :)

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ba7777
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05 Aug 2016, 00:06

Slom wrote:Is this cherry? The key caps look remarkably white compared to the case:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Klassische-Highs ... 2216240028
Looks like a G81-3081SAD to me.

hypkx
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05 Aug 2016, 00:10


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photekq
Cherry Picker

05 Aug 2016, 00:21

hypkx wrote: Interesting Cherry Doubleshots:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gravograph-Unica ... SwPRlXnj4r
Those look like dyesubs to me.. I want!

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jerue

05 Aug 2016, 02:12

hypkx wrote: Interesting Cherry Doubleshots:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gravograph-Unica ... SwPRlXnj4r
crazy looking dyesubs....what are they? hard to tell from far apart...

Also, congrats to whoever got this Tandem 1191 HBU for less than $50, of course it was listed while I was taking a nap :lol: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-TANDEM- ... 1928832316

Miko

05 Aug 2016, 18:44

http://www.eprice.it/tastiere-COOLERMASTER/d-5765551

90€ NovaTouch TKL Tipro clone. I guess the price is nice.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

05 Aug 2016, 18:49

Miko wrote: http://www.eprice.it/tastiere-COOLERMASTER/d-5765551

90€ NovaTouch TKL Tipro Topre clone. I guess the price is nice.
Fixed that for you :lol:

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seebart
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05 Aug 2016, 18:54

kbdfr wrote:
Miko wrote: http://www.eprice.it/tastiere-COOLERMASTER/d-5765551

90€ NovaTouch TKL Tipro Topre clone. I guess the price is nice.
Fixed that for you :lol:
Aww...come on kbdfr, show us some nice 66% TKL Tipro clones. :mrgreen:

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gogusrl

05 Aug 2016, 20:52

jerue wrote:
hypkx wrote: Interesting Cherry Doubleshots:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gravograph-Unica ... SwPRlXnj4r
crazy looking dyesubs....what are they? hard to tell from far apart...

Also, congrats to whoever got this Tandem 1191 HBU for less than $50, of course it was listed while I was taking a nap :lol: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-TANDEM- ... 1928832316
Just noticed it's missing a led as well (Pause/Break I guess).

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lot_lizard

06 Aug 2016, 03:47

orihalcon wrote: The way I usually tell if they are real APL is if "APL" is on the front of the Backspace key. Is missing from this one and Ripster's too actually. Anyone have a known true example of model M or F APL caps that does not have "APL" on the backspace key?
I have two sets (one from an F122 and one from an M), and both would have APL on the backspace. The only other variation of the APL key I have seen is on the F8 key on an Unsaver, but it didn't have APL caps throughout the board. Pic to help those who haven't seen.
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//gainsborough
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06 Aug 2016, 10:10


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fohat
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06 Aug 2016, 14:47

//gainsborough wrote: Old logo dell AT101

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PS-2-Keybo ... SwCfdXpAOV
I have bought these that had ABS caps and not PBT, so don't count on PBT as a "sure thing"

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XMIT
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06 Aug 2016, 15:24

fohat wrote:
//gainsborough wrote: Old logo dell AT101

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PS-2-Keybo ... SwCfdXpAOV
I have bought these that had ABS caps and not PBT, so don't count on PBT as a "sure thing"
Yep. I've seen these with ABS double shots as well.

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ohaimark
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06 Aug 2016, 15:59


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Hypersphere

06 Aug 2016, 21:37

Ortek MKB-84SX $99 shipped

I believe that this is the model with SKCM whte Alps switches and doubleshot keycaps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Ortek-Alps ... SwbsBXpMo2

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emdude
Model M Apologist

07 Aug 2016, 04:26

fohat wrote:
//gainsborough wrote: Old logo dell AT101

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PS-2-Keybo ... SwCfdXpAOV
I have bought these that had ABS caps and not PBT, so don't count on PBT as a "sure thing"
I believe you need to get the original Alps-manufactured AT101, with the FCC ID: GYI3PVAT101.

This is a pretty good deal, Apple Adjustable Keyboard + Keypad (Alps SKFS), also comes with short ADB cable to bridge the boards and a mouse, $28 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M1242-Vintage-A ... 1703487788

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y11971alex

07 Aug 2016, 09:01

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdeta ... 1460553789

The part number and the description seems to be right, but the picture is wrong. :shock:

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emdude
Model M Apologist

07 Aug 2016, 09:13

y11971alex wrote: http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdeta ... 1460553789

The part number and the description seems to be right, but the picture is wrong. :shock:
It seems you already tried to get this yourself a little while ago.. :)

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