IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

[mike52787]

It certainly seems that that is the case.

[TheAdmiralty]

Spoiler:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NIB-COMPUT ... SwaEhZJNcH

Just a rubber dome clone of the Model M/F-122? Price is flat out stupid but I'm curious.

[snufflecat]

So I just got this IBM keyboard with buckling spring but I've never really seen the model before. Anyone recognise this one?

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IBM Model M2

Also, what about this switch type? It's on a board from an old receipt/calculator-thingy.

Thanks!

Mitsumi simplified:

wiki/Mitsumi_simplified

Thanks guys!

[mike52787]

Spoiler:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NIB-COMPUT ... SwaEhZJNcH

Just a rubber dome clone of the Model M/F-122? Price is flat out stupid but I'm curious.

I think I have seen that somewhere, and yeah I think it was a rubberdome. However there are 122 style layout boards also branded "Computer Lab International" which have mx blacks and mx clones.

[Keybug]

Anyone know what this is? Don't think I've ever seen a white escape key on a vintage board like this. Escape also looks almost BTC-style large, but I think here it's due to the angle of the photo. Thanks.

[Keybug]

Turns out it's a Chicony 5162. I guess no one can say for certain what switches it has, just from the label...

[Mr.Nobody]

@keybug
I have one with blue alps.

[Myoth]

also if the keycaps MX-compatible ?

I need to get some MX-M8 to see if I can actually use this, it's been so long since I got it and I've yet to do anything about it. That was my first post on DT

[snufflecat]

My latest catch. It's got vintage mx blacks, but does anyone know what type of contact this is?

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[seebart]

Looks like an RJ45 jack.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

RJ45 is a wiring arrangement. The jack is 8P8C (8 positions, each position being wired up — 8P6C for example would have the two outer connecting strips absent). And that's nowhere near 8P wide. That appears to be 4P4C. (The best-known 4P wiring arrangement is RJ11 for telephones.)

[seebart]

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Looks like a Beardsmore correction.

It's better to be corrected than to be wrong.

[snufflecat]

RJ45 is a wiring arrangement. The jack is 8P8C (8 positions, each position being wired up — 8P6C for example would have the two outer connecting strips absent). And that's nowhere near 8P wide. That appears to be 4P4C. (The best-known 4P wiring arrangement is RJ11 for telephones.)

I'll see if I can get a better shot later, maybe that helps? And I guess the only way to get this to work is to make your own adapter?

[purdobol]

I'll see if I can get a better shot later, maybe that helps? And I guess the only way to get this to work is to make your own adapter?

Depends on the protocol it uses. There's a chance for standard AT, which would only require custom cable RJ45 -> PS/2.
If it's something exotic than teensy (or clone) and custom firmware. Photo of the board could help, the connections sometimes are signed.

[Polecat]

Looks like an RJ45 jack.

Looks more like RJ9. RJ45 (8p8c) is the 8 pin connector used for ethernet. RJ11 (6p4c) is the 4 pin used from telephone to wall. RJ9 (4p4c) is the smaller 4 pin used on telephone handsets (and on some terminal keyboards and early Macs). RJ8 (6p6c) is the 6 pin used on some Televideo keyboards. (edit: corrected RJ8 to RJ9 and added xpxc designations per Mr. Beardmore's absolutely correct definitions)

[Myoth]

soarer's ceonverter works on this, you can check orihalcon's ebay to buy one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6FT-Soarers-WY ... SwGYVXACHX

I'm pretty sure this is a Wyse clone after all ...

[seebart]

Looks like an RJ45 jack.

Looks more like RJ9. RJ45 is the 8 pin connector used for ethernet. RJ11 is the 4 pin used from telephone to wall. RJ9 is the smaller 4 pin used on telephone handsets (and on some terminal keyboards and early Macs). RJ8 is the 6 pin used on some Televideo keyboards. (edit: corrected RJ8 to RJ9)

RJ45 is a wiring arrangement. The jack is 8P8C (8 positions, each position being wired up — 8P6C for example would have the two outer connecting strips absent). And that's nowhere near 8P wide. That appears to be 4P4C. (The best-known 4P wiring arrangement is RJ11 for telephones.)

Three posts up vs. double post take your pick.

[Findecanor]

Looks more like RJ9. RJ45 is the 8 pin connector used for ethernet. RJ11 is the 4 pin used from telephone to wall. RJ9 is the smaller 4 pin used on telephone handsets (and on some terminal keyboards and early Macs). RJ8 is the 6 pin used on some Televideo keyboards. (edit: corrected RJ8 to RJ9)

Wrong on a few counts. A modular connector is a registered jack only when used for that Registered Jack's particular purpose. There are registered jacks that are not modular connectors
It's the same situation as with 6-pin mini-DIN and PS/2. Also, RJ11 uses a 6P2C connector.

#petpeeve

[Polecat]

Looks like an RJ45 jack.

Looks more like RJ9. RJ45 is the 8 pin connector used for ethernet. RJ11 is the 4 pin used from telephone to wall. RJ9 is the smaller 4 pin used on telephone handsets (and on some terminal keyboards and early Macs). RJ8 is the 6 pin used on some Televideo keyboards. (edit: corrected RJ8 to RJ9)

RJ45 is a wiring arrangement. The jack is 8P8C (8 positions, each position being wired up — 8P6C for example would have the two outer connecting strips absent). And that's nowhere near 8P wide. That appears to be 4P4C. (The best-known 4P wiring arrangement is RJ11 for telephones.)

Three posts up vs. double post take your pick.

Thanks, edited while being corrected.

Better to be safe and sorry.

[seebart]

Better to be safe and sorry.

Relax. Not my correction anyway. The correction of the correction was...correct.

[Polecat]

Better to be safe and sorry.

Relax. Not my correction anyway. The correction of the correction was...correct.

If I was any more relaxed I'd be gulping down tall ones. It's only 9 am here, but it must be noon somewhere in the world? Love it that I can be correctly corrected, learn something new, and relearn something I had forgotten over thirty years ago all at the same time.

[seebart]

Better to be safe and sorry.

Relax. Not my correction anyway. The correction of the correction was...correct.

If I was any more relaxed I'd be gulping down tall ones.

It's only 9 am here, but it must be noon somewhere in the world?

7:14 PM

Love it that I can be correctly corrected, learn something new, and relearn something I had forgotten over thirty years ago all at the same time.

Yes that's the normal learning curve here regardless of your time-zone...

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Ah, right, RJ11 is 6P2C … the cables I'm thinking of are the UK ADSL cables, which are 6P4C — I'd never noticed that the outer two positions were unused, so I mistook the plug for 4P4C.

Apple's ADB is unusual in that it's one of the rare protocols that uses a plug with the same number of pin positions as there are operational conductors in the cable. Now if only Apple had actually made ADB hot-swap safe — it worked perfectly at the OS level (demonstrated many times), but it was a no-no in terms of the circuitry.

[seebart]

Just for fun I'll share this "Cherry-Apple" that heymark sent me today:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4034770431?sh ... 3344350041

[Myoth]

Just for fun I'll share this "Cherry-Apple" that heymark sent me today:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4034770431?sh ... 3344350041

That looks weird, but a good weird

[seebart]

Just for fun I'll share this "Cherry-Apple" that heymark sent me today:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4034770431?sh ... 3344350041

That looks weird, but a good weird

Pretty strange if you ask me but hey why not and if it works then that's quite a unique build.

[Keybug]

The bottom board with the Chinese sublegends is 100% rubber dome, right? Thanks.

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[webwit]

Those are Japanese sublegends.

[Tuntematon]

Turns out it's a Chicony 5162. I guess no one can say for certain what switches it has, just from the label...

I would say green Alps, going by the letter designation at the end of the serial number.

[Keybug]

Those are Japanese sublegends.

Sorry, my bad. The ad said Chinese and I didn't double-check.